Select one of these questions please:
1. Look up the word "narrative" in the dictionary. Write down the meaning in your notebook; make sure you write down what tense a narrative occurs in or is written in please. Now, explain why "Journey of the Magi" or "Out, Out--" are narrative poems and "Big Grab" or "Romantic Moment" are not. Do not only dwell on the tenses of the poems, but talk about more than that please.
2. In "Journey of the Magi," what does the speaker mean when he says "There were times we regretted/ The summer palaces on slopes,the terraces,/ And the silken girls bringing sherbet./Then the camel men cursing and grumbling/ And running away, and wanting liquor and women" (ll.8-12). The lines I am referring to continue from line 13 up until line 15. How do these lines fit in with the poem?
3. What Death is the speaker referring to in the last stanza of the "Journey of the Magi"? How do you know? Please prove your point.
4. Does the speaker of "Out, Out --" have an opinion or a bias about the story s/he is telling? If so, show me in what lines you see it and what that opinion and bias is.
Question 3: To start, this poem obviously is told from the perspective of the magi who journeyed to experience the birth of Jesus. The poem assumes they understand the power and influence this person will have on the world, and the birth of him means the death of their old ways. They're culture and influence will forever be a ghost of what it was- Christ will have an effect on this earth greater than they ever could have. Lines 9 through 15 reminisce on the luxury they experienced at the height of their power. After this simultaneous birth and death, the magi see "alien people clutching their gods."(l.42)
ReplyDeleteQuestion 1: The poems "Journey of the Magi" and "Out, Out" are considered narrative because they both tell a story in a certain sequence of events. For example "Journey of the Magi" is talking about the experience that he/she had throught he/she life that got them to the point in which they were a more content, whole place within themselves. "Out, Out" is a narrative because it also tell a story in a sequence of events that has happen through this man's life. I beleive it's references to his lack of childhood and the situations he has dealt with at a very young age. I understood this more when the speaker says "Doing a man's work, though a chila at heart" (l.24) Possibly when he's out on the yard he still feels like a child discovering and learning but in reality he a man with a family to take care of which is his reality. "Big Grab" might seem as a story but it's more of a detailed account of how words can be manipulated and "Romantic Moment" was a interesting account of how human love can compare to the way animals show affectoin and how we can possibly attain a love like theirs with no boundaries. Both very intersting but they weren't structured as a story as "journey to the magi" and " Out, Out".
ReplyDeleteQuestion 4. Does the speaker of "Out, Out" have an opinion or a bias about the story s/he is telling? If so, show me in what lines you see it and what that opinion and bias is.
ReplyDeleteI think the narrator of "Out Out" does have a bias about the story. Obviously this story has some impact on the narrator. The narrator has some sympathy for the child. "Call it a day, I wish they might have said/ To please the boy by giving him the half hour/ That a boy counts so much when saved from work." (l.10-12) These lines clearly show that the narrator doesn't believe the child should be working all day. Give the boy a break, a boy that age longs for only one half hour in which he could be a boy and not enslaved by the duties of work. The narrator also addresses human ignorance and greed at the end of the poem "And they, since they/ Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs." (l.31-32) You'd think that an average human being would come to the aid of the boy, would feel sympathy or even care to say something. Acting oblivious to the fact that a child, who has an entire life to be something, has perished. It was not only flesh and bone that died but dreams, aspirations, hope, and imagination were buried along with the physical body of the boy. How can a men simply move on when something so precious is gone? The narrator was biased to show us our flaws as human beings.
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ReplyDeleteThe Speaker in the poem "Out, Out" shows biased views toward the child working in the yard. It illustrates the idea of working for a goal but never reaching it, which can be seen in lines 11-17 "To please the boy by giving him the half hour
That a boy counts so much when saved from work.
His sister stood beside him in her apron
To tell them "Supper." At the word, the saw,
As if it meant to prove saws know what supper meant,
Leaped out at the boy's hand, or seemed to leap -
He must have given the hand."
It illustrates the thought of working toward a goal but falling short of reaching it due to the fact that the saw cuts him and he doesn't get to eat supper, literally. Without the sister telling him "supper" it would essentially be a poem about working and getting hurt on the job, but the fact that he is working toward getting the half hour for supper accounts for biased views in the poem and gives the reader a new perspective on the physical injury the child suffers (getting his hand cut) and a mental injury, which is failing to achieve his goal. Hopefully it makes sense because in my head it does.
3. I do see the speaker of "Out, Out" having an bias in the story s/he is telling. I see a bias in this story about the young boy who is working with the buzz saw. The lines where I see this bias are "The boys first outcry was a rueful laugh, as he swung toward them holding up the hand, half in appeal, but half as if to keep the life from spilling. The the boy saw all since he was old enough to know, big boy doing a man's work, though a child at heart." The speaker seems as though they are almost mocking the boy for the work he was trying to do and failed at. S/he seems to be saying he should have not been attempting to be doing this mans work because he is just still a young boy who can't seem to get it right.
ReplyDeleteQuestion 3: What Death is the speaker referring to in the last stanza of the "Journey of the Magi"? How do you know? Please prove your point.
ReplyDelete"Journey of the Magi" represents the birth of Jesus Christ and all that has changed because of his appearance on earth. The death this stanza is describing is the literal death of Jesus as well as the ending to the ways the people once knew. Jesus gave up his life for the people and with his resurrection, the people realized he was being honest. "But no longer at ease here, in the old dispensation, with an alien people clutching their gods. I should be glad of another death" (Stanza 3, 10-12). This quote shows that the magi, the follower of Jesus, is looking forward to another death because he agrees that the world should change and people should believe in Jesus and God.
Question 4: I do see a bias forming in the speaker's words. It is almost as if s/he is writing from experience. The whole poem seems as though the boy is just doing what he is told to do, but doesn't get a reward for his work. He, instead, loses a valuable part of his being. He may have had a bright future, but once the saw cut his hand, he felt his future was completely ruined. The lines, "The boy's first outcry was a rueful laugh, as he swung toward them holding up the hand, half in appeal, but half as if to keep the life from spilling" (l.20-23) state that the boy was trying not to fully believe that his hand was gone. The speaker's bias is that he thinks the boy's future was taken from him and it was unfair.
ReplyDelete"Journey of the Magi" and "Out, Out" are both narratives because they both tell a story. The narrator retells events that have happened in his/her life. For example, in "Journey of the Magi" the first lines the narrator says is "A cold coming we had of it, Just the worst time of the year For a journey, and such a long journey..." (l. 1-3). You already know that the narrator is going to be retelling a story about a journey he has taken. They are narratives because they are both told in the past tense. The poems "Big Grab" and "Romantic Moment" are not narratives because they are not stories. "Big Grab" is about the play in words, specifically talking about a bag of chips. "Romantic Moment" compares the narrator and his date to animals. For example, in lines 7-8 he compares himself to a penguin and what he would do as one. In lines 11-12 he compares his date to a walkingstick bug and what she would do.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading T.S. Elliot’s poem “Journey of the Magi” several times, I kept getting different senses of what the narrator was saying. At first this seemed like his own trials and tribulations suffered to witness the birth of the baby Jesus, yet he was experiencing a rebirth of his own. He had gone through the departure of safety and what was known to him in his homeland, his kingdom. He had experienced a physically demanding journey and had seen either parts of his life or parts of other people’s lives that were no longer meaningful and were insignificant now that he had experienced the birth of Jesus, even though he wouldn’t be able to live for the significance of Jesus’ life. The times he is referring to in lines 8 through 15 weren’t appropriate with the spiritual aspect of his journey. Now they were a time regretted. He had endured and discovered that there was a much more important destiny and meaning to life now that he had witnessed this miracle.
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ReplyDeleteThe first thing that shows which poem is a narrative and which is not is the tense they were written in. Both “Journey of the Magi” and “Out, Out” were written in the past tense, indicating that what is being told actually occurred and that it occurred in the past. The other two poems, “Big Grab” and “Romantic Moment” are not talking about something that already occurred. They both are almost discussions of concepts the writers were pondering. The second thing that indicates which poems are narratives draws on the definition of the word “narrative”. A “narrative” is a story of a sequence of events that is told in the order in which they occurred. “Journey of the Magi” is told in order which can be concluded by the language used throughout. For example, the beginning of the last stanza, “All this was a long time ago, I remember,/ And I would do it again, but set down/ This set down/ This: were we led all that way for Birth or Death?” (3. 1-5). These lines show that the speaker was telling a story that he/she lived in the past and is reflecting on it now.
1. Look up the word "narrative" in the dictionary. Write down the meaning in your notebook; make sure you write down what tense a narrative occurs in or is written in please. Now, explain why "Journey of the Magi" or "Out, Out--" are narrative poems and "Big Grab" or "Romantic Moment" are not. Do not only dwell on the tenses of the poems, but talk about more than that please.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading all four poems a few times, the difference between them became a lot more noticeable to me. "Journey of the Magi" and "Out, Out--" are both narrative poems because they tell a story. Although they are both poems, the way they were written and the way it flows is a story. In these poems, there were different time frames that also made it a narrative story. "Journey of the Magi" told the story of the Birth and Death of Jesus Christ very thoroughly. In "Out, Out--" a story is being told about a young boy doing labor who ends his day with a saw cutting his hand off. In the other poem, "Big Grab",they both seem like the speaker is reciting all of the thoughts throughout the poem in his head perhaps. The thoughts don't seem fulfilled. In "Romantic Moment", the speaker is referring to many different types of animals to describe his romantic moment. Neither of these poems are necessarily telling a story but more of a specific time that directed the speakers to other random ideas.
Question 2: I think that these lines fit in with the rest of the poem because the lines are describing a part of the journey. They talk about the highs and lows of the trip, how some cities weren't very friendly, how some charged high prices for everything, and how some were just in chaos from the sound of it. They are describing some experiences of the journey, good and bad, but all part of what they had to go through on the journey regardless. Thats why I think they fit in with the rest of the poem.
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ReplyDelete1. “ The Journey of the Magi” and “ Out, Out” are narratives because they explain someone’s life they are taking the reader on a journey and are trying to make the reader have a better understanding of where the authors come from, the poems tell stories of peoples lives by event and experiences and how they made the person who they are today. Another thing that made them narratives is how they explained the stories’, the technique in which they wrote them was a narrative technique. “ Big Grab” and “ Romantic Moment” were not narratives because they did not tell there stories in the way that the first two poems did, these poems were more interested in facts and how those tell the story not lives.
2. These lines fit in with the poem because the author is trying to tell the story of his life. These lines in the poem show him as a boy in the summer and what his life was like then. These lines also serve as telling how he was happy once in his life and as he got older the happiness started to fade and the reader can see this as they read farther into the poem.
3. I think that the author is referring to a death inside himself; I think this because the whole poem is telling the story of his life how he grew up and everything. Towards the end of the poem it shows how the authors life took a turn and he started to feel hopeless, so think that the death is himself, not literally but within his soul.
4. I don’t think that the author had his own opinion, I think he thought what everyone would while reading the poem it is a shame and it is that this kind of thing happens everyday. I think by the author writing this he was trying to prove a point certainly but I don’t think he was trying to persuade anyone.
4.Does the speaker of "Out, Out --" have an opinion or a bias about the story s/he is telling? If so, show me in what lines you see it and what that opinion and bias is
ReplyDeleteAfter reading "Out, Out" I saw examples of bias portrayed in the poem. The use of the word "boy" throughout the poem helped me notice that he still had his innocence, yet it was all taken along with his hand. The boy did not want to believe that it had already been gone because he was not ready for that news, but without a doubt his life was gone along with his and and innocence though his maturity level was high due to the fact he was doing a mans job. Line 23 -24, " Since he was old enough to know, big boy doings a mans work, though a child a heart." This line of the poem shows the sympathy the author felt on how young he was which created a bias and how this boy is working so much , yet as soon as he died everyone went back to their lives, " And they, since they were not the one dead, turned to their affairs," line 33-34.
Question 1: The web definition of a narrative is a story or a count of events. In the poem "Journey of the Magi" it retells the events of his journey through out his experience of the birth of Jesus Christ. It tells a story about how he felt distant and alone throughout the poem. The poem, "Out,Out" is the same way. It tells a story about a young boy who had been killed. The poems "Big Grab", and "Romantic Moment" aren't really telling stories they aren't talking about personal experiences they are just talking about general observations.
ReplyDelete#4. Does the speaker of "Out, Out --" have an opinion or a bias about the story s/he is telling? If so, show me in what lines you see it and what that opinion and bias is.
ReplyDelete- "Out,Out-" by Robert Frost
After reading and listening to "out, out" on the DVD i came to the conclusion that the speaker of "out,out" is telling the story through a bias perspective. In lines 10-12 "call it a day, I wish they might have said to please the boy by giving him the half hour that a boy counts so much when saved from work." This line portrays bias because this so called boy is being used for hard labor and is still being considered a boy and not a young adult. The bias of the story teller is that no matter the hard work you do at work, you are still seen as the date on your birth certificate and not the strength you show at work. The boy even thinks like a adult in the way he thinks about break and gets away from work for a short period to time but he doesn't care as long as he has that half hour of no work. At the end of the story the boy died a boy and the best line was "No more to build on there." 2nd to last stanza.
A narrative can occur in the forms of a noun or an adjective. It is defined as a story or account of experiences or events. It is usually represented in a book or a type of literary work. It can also be defined as reporting stories in a way so the reader can picture the images in their head. Of the four poems we had to read, I felt that “Journey of the Magi” was the most narrative of all the poems. It told an individual’s journey one event at a time, describing each experience so vividly that I could place it in my head without any confusion. For example, “Wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation; With a running stream and a water-mill beating the darkness, And three trees on the low sky, And an old white horse galloped away in the meadow” (Eliot “Journey of the Magi”l.22-25). I was able to picture the entire scenery and the movements of the horse and water-mill. I also feel the same way about “Out Out”. It is a representation of a story of a series of events that took place in a particular boy’s life. I could see and hear the saw they was described in the poem, along with what was going on while the boy was dying, including his last breathe. Both stories are told in the past tense and are stories of an event in someone’s life.
ReplyDeleteBeing that the definition of a narrative is a story of events, I wouldn’t consider “Big Grab” and “Romantic Moment” narrative poems. Neither poem describes a story or set of events that have taken place in an individual’s life. “Big Grab” describes different types of advertisement that is used in our society today. There was no story as to how the corn-chip engineer got the idea or what happened after. As for the “Romantic Moment” it had no story line to it, instead consisted of lines of comparison for sexual desire.
Shannon Armstrong
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By definition narrative is a story that is created in a constructive format (speech, song, tv) that describes a sequence of fictional or non fictional human events.
In the poems Journey of the Magi and Out, Out, Out; we can automatically see a common theme, the narrator and the idea of a story. Throughout these poems we get a firsthand account of what was going on and what emotions were felt throughout. In the first stanza of Journey of the Magi we hear a direct quote, speaking of the events that were about to take place right before our eyes. In Out,Out,Out we hear the story of a boy who continued to do his work; which resulted in consequence. In the poems Food Court and Big Grab we hear about generalizations; talking about the group of people in the food court or about corn chips. These are not stories, but the short sweet almost comedic versions of what is going on. In the poem Food court, we get to see what a person is thinking in the back of their head. This isn’t a story that goes step by step, but a fun take on all the people who step foot into the food court every day. Overall these poems were just observations and ideas while the poems of Journey of the Magi and Out, Out, Out are stories.
Shannon Armstrong
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By definition narrative is a story that is created in a constructive format (speech, song, tv) that describes a sequence of fictional or non fictional human events.
In the poems Journey of the Magi and Out, Out, Out; we can automatically see a common theme, the narrator and the idea of a story. Throughout these poems we get a firsthand account of what was going on and what emotions were felt throughout. In the first stanza of Journey of the Magi we hear a direct quote, speaking of the events that were about to take place right before our eyes. In Out,Out,Out we hear the story of a boy who continued to do his work; which resulted in consequence. In the poems Food Court and Big Grab we hear about generalizations; talking about the group of people in the food court or about corn chips. These are not stories, but the short sweet almost comedic versions of what is going on. In the poem Food court, we get to see what a person is thinking in the back of their head. This isn’t a story that goes step by step, but a fun take on all the people who step foot into the food court every day. Overall these poems were just observations and ideas while the poems of Journey of the Magi and Out, Out, Out are stories.
Question #4: I read the poem "Out, Out" a couples time to try to identify any biases from the speaker. It is evident to see that the speaker feels some compassion and sympathy for the boy. This is also how he/she refers to him (the boy), because he/she does not feel that this boy is grown enough to take on these adult tasks. In Lines 10-12 "Call it a day, I wish they might have said/To please the boy by giving him the half hour/That a boy counts so much when saved from work." My interpretation of those lines were that maybe the incident would have been avoided all together if the boy would have been let off early, because after all...he was just a kid. Lines 23-24 also supports my last statement, “Since he was old enough to know, big boy/ Doing a man’s work though a child at heart-“ It’s a shame that they had to make young children do the work of men, because that meant that none of them really ever had a chance to enjoy their childhood. It was just straight to business. The last lines really made me sad. Lines 33-34, “No more to build on there. And they, since they/Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs.” From my understanding, they showed absolutely no remorse that the child was dead, very selfish at that. I’m sure that the speaker sent that message across to all the readers.
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ReplyDeleteAfter looking up the meaning of "narrative" and found out it is a noun and it is the telling of a story or a series of events and experiences. A narrative can be either be true or fictitious. The poems "Journey of the Magi" or "Out, Out--" are both narrative pieces of poetry because they are telling a story, you can tell this because within each poem there are a series of events occurring. For example in the poem "Journey of the Magi"is talking about a life experience of a person whether it be a female or male."Then at dawn we came down to a temperate valley, wet, below the snow line, smelling of vegetation" (Eliot "The Journey of the Magi" l.21-22).The poem "Out, Out--" is another example of a narrative poem because there are a series of events. This poem is talking about a boy who has to deal with a lot of hardships at such a young age, the things he deals with should not to be worried about until he is a grown man. "Doing a man's work, though a child at heart" (Frost "Out, Out--" l.24). The other two poems that we had to read "Big Grab" and "Romantic Moment" are not examples of narrative poems this is because there is not a story being told, but more of an expression of feelings.The poem "Romantic Moment" is a poem with many comparisons. The poet is comparing love to animals. For example "and if I were a bull penguin right now I would lean over and vomit softly into the mouth of my beloved" (Hoagland "Romantic Moment" l.7-8) The last poem "Big Grad" there is also no story being told, this poem is talking about how words can have different meanings and interpretations.
ReplyDelete3. he is one of the wise men who witnessed Jesus being born. he of course is referring to the end of serious polytheism and any monotheistic pagan belief systems. with the coming of Christ many great things came. there can be no doubt that Jesus was a great and peaceful man who should have taught the world a great many things about how to live a good life. "I should be glad of another death" I'm sure are his feeling about Jesus being crucified and perhaps about his resurrection even fortifying that you cant really end belief.
ReplyDeleteThe term narrative was defined in the tense of a noun meaning a story that is created in a constructive format that describes a sequence of fictional or nonfictional human events. The poem “Out, Out-“ written by Robert Frost is the narrative story of a boy and his sister in the mountains of Vermont. You can tell it is a narrative story because it describes the events that the boy goes through throughout the day such as “Call it a day, I wish they might have:” (Frost “Out, Out-“ 1.24) For the poem “Journey of the Magi” is also a story better yet a journey told from the eyes of maybe a group of young adults from what I gathered. They are traveling through valleys and snow and they saw many things on the way. The narrative almost takes you along for the journey that’s how detailed this poem is compared to the poem “Out, Out-“ . On the other hand the poems that didn’t portray a narrative feel to the readings were “Big Grab” and “Romantic Moment” . “Big Grad” seemed like a story at first but then it seemed to ramble onto other words that didn’t match my definition. As for “Romantic Moment” the word choice of if or would seemed like they didn’t happen and it wasn’t a real story being told. The two weren’t as bold of a narrative story as the others.
ReplyDelete1. Narrative is the representation in art of an event or story. Journey of the Magi is a narrative of the three wise men going to Jesus Christ when he was born. It is told in the point of view of one of these magi. It is written in three parts. The first part describes life before the journey. The second part describes the journey. The third part is written as if the story were being told in this moment, looking back on the journey. The before, during and after stories of the birth of Christ. This is a narrative because it tells a story- the journey of the three wise men. In Out,Out- it is a narrative telling the story of a boy who was working. He was using a saw to cut some wood. When he got called to come in for Supper he lost control of the saw and it cut him. The injury was such a tragedy that he did not recover from it, and died. This is a narrative because it tells the story of how the boy had died, and how those who lived moved on with their lives. Big grab is not a narrative. It is more making a statement than it is telling a story. It makes the statement of how words hardly mean what they say anymore in our society. It gives examples but does not tell a story. Romantic moment is not a narrative either, because it describes a moment where a couple are sitting on a bench on their second date and the woman suggests to go in private and have an intimate time. It does not talk about a journey, or a story. It talks about a moment.
ReplyDelete2. This part of the poem is telling about the time of the magi's lives where they lived in times of corruption. They regretted being a part of this society, living this way and tolerating it. After all that they have seen and been through, they rathered to journey in the middle of the night in the cold away from their riches and luxuries to be able to witness the birth of Christ.
3. The death that the speaker is talking about is the death of Christ. He is talking about how he had seen the birth, and death of Jesus Christ. He is happy to have the death because of the atonement from his death, and how he died for everyone's sins.
4. The reader has an opinion that the boy should have not been doing a mans work, but should have been playing. Had he been playing instead of working with the saw, the tragedy could have, in her eyes, been prevented. Her opinion is sprouted from her profession of working with kids, getting them to play and have a safe haven from their hard working lives at home, helping raise their younger siblings, helping around the house, etc. Her opinion of the boy's tragedy being prevented is from the lines 10-12 "Call it a day, I wish they might have said/To please the boy by giving him the half hour/That a boy counts so much when saved from work." It is wished that he would be playing more than a half hour, rather than working the whole day. Also in lines 22-25 "Then the boy saw all-/Since he was old enough to know, big boy/Doing a man's work, though a child at heart-/He saw all spoiled." Although he was a boy, he knew that this was a bad thing that had just happened. He had a young soul, a yearning to play and be a free child but instead was timed with his play and had to work to do things that a man must do.
I believe that during the "Journey of the Magi" that several lines were pointed out in order to stress the reason for the Journey in the first place" the birth of christ. "The summer palaces on the slopes, the terraces, And the silken girls bringing sherbet." (lines 9-10) Is meant to highlight the moral decadence of the times and thus the reasoning for Christ's birth. Because Christ was born to absolve mankind's sins and thus lead them out of depravity, showing the world filled with palaces and summer homes shows the emphasis on worldly things as opposed to spiritual prior to the birth of Christ. "Then the camel men cursing and grumbling/ And running away, and wanter their liquor and women," (lines 11-12) confirm this, but instead of greed, we the poem shifts its focus here to lust and self-indulgence. A journey is never so much about he destination as what you see along the way, and if these images were not properly described, then we as the readers would have missed out on the whole context of the poem itself.
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ReplyDeleteGoing by what the definition of "narrative" I do agree that "Journey of the Magi" and "Out, Out" are narrative poems and "Romantic Moment" and "Grab Big" are not. Yes, the two narrative poems are in past tense and the two non-narrative poems are in present tense. "Romantic Moment" and "Grab Big" describe a picture of what is happening in the now. The narrator in "Romantic Moment" states ideas of what could be like to get intimate in different ways in lines 7-20, where he says out of the ordinary thoughts about mammals and their mate. In lines 6 and 7 he would be a bull penguin and then in lines 16-19 he would be a Brazilian leopard frog. In the “Big Grab” this speaker is wondering about a string of things that sprung off of the previous idea. There is no past event s/he references. “Journey of the Magi” and “Out, Out” are narrative and talk about past events whether true or fictitious. These describe experiences of death in both. In “Journey of the Magi” in lines 35-40 death occurs after a journey is traveled regardless of what was lost of gained. Then eventually in line 40 “We returned to our places, these Kingdoms” will always happen. The past is dead and each day is a new birth to one’s life (Line 43) “I should be glad for another death. Each death will bring happiness in due time. “Out, Out” is a sad story of a young boy who lost his life to working hard at an early age. In lines 34-35 these people just lost someone in their lives but their life moved on “since they were not the one dead, turned to their affairs”. Death leaves a mark on everyone but these people then continued to live their lives and return back to their work.
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ReplyDelete4. I feel that the speaker of "Out, Out" does have a bias opinion. Where I see this bias come out is in the lines of "To please the boy by givving him the half hour that a boy counts so much when saved from work." This shows that the boys or men should be working while in the next line, "His sister stood beside them in her apron to tell them "Supper." This shows that the women or girls should be in the kitchen cooking the food and doing jobs that are involved in the house while the men are out and about working. Now a days this is not the issue that either the men or women can either be working outside the household or in the household working.
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ReplyDeleteI think that the speaker of "Out,out" does have an opinion about the boy. It seems like the speaker is saying the boy was asking for it almost. He must have given the hand. However it was,
Neither refused the meeting. (17-18). To me the speaker seems to make it out like they should have seen this coming, because he is a boy doing a mans work. He points this out by saying "To please the boy by giving him the half hour
That a boy counts so much when saved from work." (11-12)This points out hes a boy, young, naive, perhaps not as focused that way as soon as his sister yelled supper he turned away to go eat leading to the accident.
Another way you could see that they could have seen this coming is how there seems to be a lack of emotion at the end "Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs." (32) Like he is dead, lets go back to work and hope it doesnt happen to any other boy
Question 3: To see how these lines fit in with the poem you must understand the theme of the rest of the poem first. Most of the beginning of the poem talks about the hardships of the journey. For example," The ways deep and the weather sharp," "The camels galled, sore-footed," "the cities hostile and the towns unfriendly," and " And the villages dirty and charging high prices," just to state a few. The idea is that they had to pay a price and deal with harsh conditions to witness such a great prize, which I think is the Birth and Death. I'm not really sure of whose birth or death but it can be very symbolic. I think they regret the summer palaces and the silken girls bringing sherbet becuase they were not looking to be blessed by having materials and did not value these things; they valued the harsh journey to get where they were going; They were going to witness and experience someone's Birth and Death. I feel like this fits into the poem to show they did not care about luxeries that most people today care about, but they care about life and they preserve and glorify their harsh journey.
ReplyDelete2. In the "Journey of the Magi" the several lines that were pointed out were put into the poem in order to provide a sense of what the journeymen left behind. It appears that they were living the life of luxury with no worries and were being waited on hand and foot. With everything that the Magi was receiving, he did not want it anymore after he had traveled so far and been through so much, just to see something so special. After being put through so much the Magi was now appreciative for all of the little things that he had always taken for granted, and I feel like he is almost admitting a trip of guilt that he had from his former life.
ReplyDelete1. The definition of a Narrative by dictionary. com is, "a story or account of events, experiences, or the like, whether true or fictitious." In the story of "Out, Out" The author talked about a story that happened in the past about a boy who loses his hand to a hand saw and dies,this happens in a series of events, which fits under the definition of a narrative. In the poem, "Journey of the Magi" the author oce agan tells a story of the three wisemen and their journey which happened in the past. However the story's "Big Grab" and "Romantic Moment" they are both in the present tense talking about what is happening now in time, which dosent fit the definition. One talks about different ways of love making and the other talks about pretty simply a bag of chips.
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